Noel Vermillion Basics

hughjazz44 · **Posted:** Wed Feb 29, 2012 12:58 am

Falco Fateburn wrote:

I am sure Extend's frame data changed but if you go by CS2 frame data. Anything Noel does put her at a disadvantage after 2C on instant block.

8 frames startup on 5C
20 framese startup on 3C
22 frames startup on A Optic Barrel
26 frames startup on her command throw (if you even are able to cancel 2C into it)
and 19+ frames on 5D,6D and 4D.

The only gamble she has is that she can do 3C>go neutral state>throw and pray that her throw comes out faster than the enemies low attacks (since 5D 6D and 4D are prone to lows) either that, or bait the lows with her 2D.

2C -> 3C only combos on crouching hitstun. If you do 2C -> 3C and they block low (even a normal block), you will get your ass fawked (Unless they just lost their last primer). A blocked 3C can get punished sooooo hard.

Falco Fateburn · **Posted:** Wed Feb 29, 2012 1:24 am

I meant it on block. Noel can't resume pressure after a 2C if the enemy knows how to fight her. But even on IB Noel is safe so she can't get punished, only if she tries to do something after it and depending on what the enemy is trying to punish with.

hughjazz44 · **Posted:** Wed Feb 29, 2012 4:08 am

You can do 2C -> 5C -> short pause -> More pressure

TrueGunnerShadow · **Posted:** Thu Mar 01, 2012 9:22 pm

hughjazz44 wrote:

You can do 2C -> 5C -> short pause -> More pressure

Bad idea to me.

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