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PostPosted: Mon Oct 24, 2011 3:23 am 
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Now what is wrong with a perfectly normal-shaped Litchi anyway?

I REALLY don't want her to turn into blob, that should belong to Arakune. Why do you think it's interesting if she becomes blob? She'll become an Arakune Mk. II, brings nothing new. At least if we keep the side of she stays human, she will at least bring something new to the table, about how miracle do happen and the same thing didn't happen twice.

Again, what is wrong with a normal Litchi? This is probably why I can't come to Dustloop. Too many people like swordiris. No offense, dude, I think you're a cool guy and all, but anyone hoping horrible things to happen to Litchi, like turning into Arakune Mk. II, just don't sit well in me.

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 24, 2011 3:30 am 
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Now what is wrong with a perfectly normal-shaped Litchi anyway?

I REALLY don't want her to turn into blob, that should belong to Arakune. Why do you think it's interesting if she becomes blob? She'll become an Arakune Mk. II, brings nothing new. At least if we keep the side of she stays human, she will at least bring something new to the table, about how miracle do happen and the same thing didn't happen twice.

Again, what is wrong with a normal Litchi? This is probably why I can't come to Dustloop. Too many people like swordiris. No offense, dude, I think you're a cool guy and all, but anyone hoping horrible things to happen to Litchi, like turning into Arakune Mk. II, just don't sit well in me.


Hmm, I was wondering. Say perhaps on the off chance that litchi does get affected by the boundary to the point of no return. Perhaps her form might not be like arakune's. Maybe, just maybe she might have some other form/being controlling her. The way how I imagine it is if she does ever happen to change (and here's to hoping she doesn't) then I think that she might end up being like eddie from guilty, i.e. she has a human or a humanoid form but she can also change into some demonic creature.

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ChrisX wrote:
Now what is wrong with a perfectly normal-shaped Litchi anyway?

I REALLY don't want her to turn into blob, that should belong to Arakune. Why do you think it's interesting if she becomes blob? She'll become an Arakune Mk. II, brings nothing new. At least if we keep the side of she stays human, she will at least bring something new to the table, about how miracle do happen and the same thing didn't happen twice.

Again, what is wrong with a normal Litchi? This is probably why I can't come to Dustloop. Too many people like swordiris. No offense, dude, I think you're a cool guy and all, but anyone hoping horrible things to happen to Litchi, like turning into Arakune Mk. II, just don't sit well in me.


I'm not hoping this happens to her, she could get the finest ending possible and I'd be fine with that. I'm just saying it would be interesting if it happened. I like Litchi's current model but it could work and if the story turned in that direction, I would find it really engaging. Especially if her and Arakune have sludge kids together (jk).

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 24, 2011 3:39 am 
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Or as I said, Oichi as of Sengoku Basara 3. It would've been more acceptable than full blown Arakune Mk. II.

Besides if Litchi's conclusion on her true end is to be taken true, then BlackLionWolf777's speculation can be true, since it looks like different people have different ways to be mutated.

Well I guess our interest differs....

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 25, 2011 1:10 am 
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ChrisX wrote:
Now what is wrong with a perfectly normal-shaped Litchi anyway?

I REALLY don't want her to turn into blob, that should belong to Arakune. Why do you think it's interesting if she becomes blob? She'll become an Arakune Mk. II, brings nothing new. At least if we keep the side of she stays human, she will at least bring something new to the table, about how miracle do happen and the same thing didn't happen twice.

Again, what is wrong with a normal Litchi? This is probably why I can't come to Dustloop. Too many people like swordiris. No offense, dude, I think you're a cool guy and all, but anyone hoping horrible things to happen to Litchi, like turning into Arakune Mk. II, just don't sit well in me.

Why do you assume something's "wrong" with it?

It would not only be a pretty damn interesting plot direction, it'd honestly be one of the best ones. Terumi is obviously using her, VERY few people characters are attached to Arakune, and as a writer, personally I would take the chance to do something original and groundbreaking like this in a heartbeat.

1. Arakune finally succumbs and dies.
2. Litchi falls to her own corruption, becoming the "Arakune 2.0" in terms of playstyle - her appearance could differ, however.
2. All of the people who care about LITCHI now feel what she felt towards Arakune and sympathize with her... but far too late. This could include...
3. Linhua! Linhua could take Litchi's staff on her pack and pick up Litchi's style for those who still want that: In other words, nothing (in terms of gameplay) would be lost.

Then, in the end, Bang might use his magic nail to fix Litchi and maybe even save Arakune or something. Who knows? Regardless, it's these kinds of twists that make things interesting, I think.


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PostPosted: Tue Oct 25, 2011 1:16 am 
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Seventh wrote:
Why do you assume something's "wrong" with it?

It would not only be a pretty damn interesting plot direction, it'd honestly be one of the best ones. Terumi is obviously using her, VERY few people characters are attached to Arakune, and as a writer, personally I would take the chance to do something original and groundbreaking like this in a heartbeat.

1. Arakune finally succumbs and dies.
2. Litchi falls to her own corruption, becoming the "Arakune 2.0" in terms of playstyle - her appearance could differ, however.
2. All of the people who care about LITCHI now feel what she felt towards Arakune and sympathize with her... but far too late. This could include...
3. Linhua! Linhua could take Litchi's staff on her pack and pick up Litchi's style for those who still want that: In other words, nothing (in terms of gameplay) would be lost.

Then, in the end, Bang might use his magic nail to fix Litchi and maybe even save Arakune or something. Who knows? Regardless, it's these kinds of twists that make things interesting, I think.


^^ this

I agree completely but people that got into litchi for sexiness would be dissapointed, Linhua needs more sexy. Have enough Jailbait in this game. :lol:

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You think so? I mean, I honestly don't care either way, I just want an interesting story (and Litchi doing what she's been doing for ANOTHER game, especially after being further corrupted, throwing away all her ideals, etc. just... isn't), but offhand I can only think of Platinum.


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Linhua as playable would be pretty cool

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 25, 2011 5:34 am 
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Linhua was proven to know jack shit about fighting. She BLED on punching Tager and doesn't seem to know how to fight. For her to be available would've been a pull from the ass if she knew a fighting style in such a short time.

If I were you, Seventh...

I would seriously pick the story of Litchi finally realizing about that she has to move on, the rest is right that she needs to forget about Arakune. She tried to escape, but the higher ups are making her to stay more, just for lulz. The corruption started catching up... then BAM! There comes Bang saving the day! After being lectured by Bang that she's never alone and there are people who loved her, she renounced her ties from NOL and joins the good guys, tilting the scales with the NOL knowledge she got. Arakune didn't even need to die either, he can just get cured and play a part of Litchi realizing she needs to move on: Lotte revealing that he hadn't learnt his lessons...

A story of 'realizing mistakes' is just as interesting. It keeps Litchi in the shape of sexy, and keeps her character intact and develop beautifully. When I said 'What is wrong' I assumed that you think that Litchi's current form and design is BORING and needs a change if she wants to be accepted again. I think her design isn't quite boring. She looks sexy despite being good and all, giving a middle finger of the stereotype of 'if you're sexy, you're evil/morally ambiguous'. Her going to your story would mean just to go back to the old stereotype rather than going on to the new one.

(And I mean, too much twists isn't as good as you think. We got enough twists about Saya the Imperator... Sorry, but I kinda want my reassurance from CT about good Litchi back...)

P.S: You, a writer? Wrote fics?

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 25, 2011 6:07 am 
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She... bled when she was fighting Tager because Tager is made of steel, and the line was "she punched Tager UNTIL she bled" - not "she punched Tager AND she bled" - the implications there are pretty drastically different. Plus, she'd be using a weapon, which is also pretty different.

Wanting to keep Litchi as "sexy" for the sake of that is, well, shallow. She could still be saved by Bang afterwards and all, but she's going down a path and she's made some decisions that we can't just magically take away now that she's made them and forgive her like that. That's not good writing, that's cheap writing and lessens her entire storyline of CS. There would have been no point to her corruption and her backstabbing her own ordeals if she up and turns right around.

Maybe she doesn't need to turn into an Arakune copy either, but redeeming her so quickly is as shallow as liking Litchi solely for her looks.

Furthermore, I'm... not sure where you get the idea of "if you're sexy, you're morally ambiguous" is common - the much more common ideal being used, if anything, is "if you're female of legal age, you're going to get sexed up" period. Trying to make Litchi a generic medic/nice character just to defy a nonexistent stereotype should be the last thing we want to do, whereas her really going as far as Arakune did and seeing the wrongs of her actions? And THEN maybe having to find redemption? THAT would be a story.

CT Litchi is the same Litchi as CS Litchi, and that Litchi said to hell with morals, she wants Arakune. She's following the path of corruption, she wants Arakune - practically sentient corruption at this point - and she's willing to follow Hazama, who WILL screw her over as soon as it's convenient for him, to get it. Look at Tsubaki. Hell, since you bring her up, look at Saya - it's speculated she's just an empty husk.

Her sins are not sins you can just magic away. There WILL have to be a period where she pays for what she's done, and given that BB3 will be in the phase of her "doing", then that leaves BB4 for her suffering and repenting. I'm not saying she needs to be "evil" - I don't think Arakune is evil - but it would be a fitting end, and it wouldn't even be that much of a twist. If Litchi were just an NPC, you could almost guarantee that she would end up like Arakune.

And she should, if Arksys wants to write a decent, compelling story.


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