I can see where your points are coming from, and Im not gonna try and argue street fighter since, well Im only average at it and I'm much better/into GG. Jin is still really boring IMO compared to ky, he has no oki, Ky's 236d/ J.236d FRC antics is a much better tool then Jin's, and Ky's fireballs are much more useful (This is mostly due to different game mechanics though, FRC points on his fireballs help a lot at making them better tools)
And when I was talking about anti airs I was talking about hakumen and rachel specificaly. Rachel's only anti air is 6a, which is only useful on CH, has nerfed range, isn't overhead invulnerable, and clashes with just about everything. Hakumen just has 5a, which is basicically just as good as Hazama's

It's because Hakumen is not meant to be a rushdown character, that why I always went (wtf?) when you said you're a rushdown Haku because that doesn't exist. Haku is meant to be a character that basically never attacks, it even says so in his matchup discussion. He is a stronger version of Tager, you make the opponent come to you, not you go to the opponent. Haku is meant to turtle, and when you get a hit in you burn your meter for damage, that atleast how I play him and it works alot of times. What's the point of burning meter on block anyways? In the end you are just going to eat an DP or you're going to get out of Magatama due to Haku's stressful meter.(Using it for pressure/blockstrings AND combos.) Haku has shittie mixup game so "pressuring" with him isn't rewarding anyways. Zantetsu burns 1/3 of his meter and it is obvious. His only good mixup tool is Hop tsubaki, and even then he can't follow it up meterless unless in corner. In theory if you look at it, you burn 1/3 of your meter for an overhead, and if it gets blocked, you CAN'T even resume pressure due to Hakumens shittie mixup game, so it's just a lost cause to try and pressure with Haku when it's not even possible.

Well I guess, I can't argue about GG stuff mainly because I never played it and I would act autohagiographic if I'd try to argue against it.


Yes I guess you are right about it, but still I don't know, maybe you are just comparing it a little too much to SF or GG, considering BB and GG was made by the same people, maybe they didn't want BB to be so people could properly punish air jump ins etc. like GG because it would be a little too hardcore. Pressuring an opponent with perfect anti airs is pretty much non existant due to alot of blockstrings having some jumpcancels to resume pressure or to catch an enemy from jumping away from your blockstring.

That's a pretty dumb thing to compare to BlazBlue, it's all a matter of preference. I played Street fighter and I SERIOUSLY couldn't get used with the gay ass turtling + Hit opponent away when they jump in thing. Pretty much all Shotas are high tier and have an advantage due to projectiles and good anti air (Shoryus) And this is coming from a Guy main.

The whole process of Street fighter is >mash 6 and 4 around like a retard till somebody whiffs a move or has longer toenails *cough* Ken *cough*. That's when they don't have projectiles. Other wise its projectile>projectile etc. If people try to jump in you get shoryu'd away. This is seriously a retarded mechanic but that's just me.


I can't talk about Guilty Gear since I've never played it but oh well.

In BlazBlue, you are making look like anti-airs are godlike in BlazBlue when they are pretty much shittie, you do know that every character has a "Hit overhead + still guard an anti air" right? For example if you take a Ragna mirror, if I try to approach in with a j.C and opponent Ragna does 6A, I can do it so if he doesn't do the anti air, he either gets hit or he gets into a block string BUT if he does an anti air, my j.C will whiff due to upper body invincibillity. Long story short, if you time it right, I will still block the opponents 6A but still had a change to start a combo/blockstring.

2) This point is completely idiotic, low tiers in Street fighter are pretty much doomed compared to low tiers in BB(Excluding Rachel because she is just terrible). It does seem unbalanced but it is not impossible to win. Matches like Tager vs Litchi are a little lopsided but still manageable. It just requires more patience and better fundamentals/tech skill.

3)I agree with this point to an extend, but then again if you are mentioning "same combo over and over" the principle pretty much reflects back on Street Fighter. I've seen a million Akumas do nothing than pokes>air flying kick or w/e it's called> H Shoryu. I don't know what kind of balance you saw in Street fighter but that's a whole different story. Usually every character has his BnB's and they all revolve around them with slight variations. (This is a personal thing but Ragna does have a 4k combo that does not have Beriu edgy starting from a Gauntlet hades).

Jin is not a dumbed down version because his ice is a very good tool, it is pretty much just longer hitbox + hitstun with a different animation. Also I honestly don't see what more of "classes" you want to have. There is rushdowns, there is Zoners there is a Grappler and then there is those people in between them (Litchi, Jin, Hazama) That the 3 most basic classes a fighting can have, if you are referring to those classes like Dormammu in MvsC3 where he pretty much just puts alot of shit in the screen you have to avoid. That's Arakune to an extend, that and ASW didn't put that class in because it's retarded anyways and goes back to scrubs that spam Hadoukens and Shoryus in Street Fighter.

Since you are taking Mu, Mu literally has 1 combo only + a corner combo. That or her combo is shortened for laser oki + mixup game. I didn't see a Mu do anything else then knockdown>OTG>6C>sword of decimation to make the opponent gtfo or a variation knockdown>otg>6C(opponent wallbounces back)>5D>6D>236D which gives Mu Oki game.