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PostPosted: Sun May 27, 2012 7:42 am 
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This was taken from tumblr. I figure this might be helpful to some since most of this can also apply to forum RPing and not just tumblr RPing.
Especially that last tip. That last one. Yes.

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3 Reasons No One Will Role Play with You (and ways to remedy them)

Disclaimer: this post is not meant to be offensive to anyone. I know the title seems scary, but trust me, it’s actual helpful information. If what I say here offends you, take a look at why it offends you. It’s not because I’m being mean; I can tell you that right now. I’m being honest and not at all insulting.

It’s come to my attention that people are complaining, more and more often, about how people don’t want to role play with them and how role plays die. I’ve noticed a trend with these people and compiled a list of three reasons as to why people won’t role play with them, as well as ways to remedy these problems. There’s one reason for people who play original characters, one reason for people who play canon characters, and one reason for everyone. So go ahead and look on and see if any of these apply to you. If they don’t, feel free to send me an ask, and we can talk about it so we can try to see what the problem is.

Also, keep in mind that some role players are just douchebags and are far more exclusive than they want to admit. There will be people who won’t role play with you because they’re assholes. However, not everyone is like this. If you’re getting dropped left and right, it’s most likely because there’s something going on on your end. I’m not saying everyone else is flawless and you aren’t; there’s room for improvement everywhere. What’s important is that you take that room and fill it up as much as you can so that you enjoy role playing a lot more.

Now, I’m not going to waste anymore of your time, so go ahead and take a gander and see if any of this applies to you.



For those who have an original character, your problem might be that your character is based off of you.
Every writer puts a bit of him or herself into a character. How else would we be able to write emotions and reactions realistically? It’s because we need to put ourselves in our character’s shoes and try to understand how that character would act in such a situation. (In this way, however, one could argue that the writer doesn’t influence the character, but rather the character influences the writer. Just something to chew on.) However, there are some writers who take their entire personality and shove it into someone with a different appearance. (Or, perhaps, the same appearance.) Theoretically, this wouldn’t be a problem, right?

Let me explain to you why it’s a huge problem.

Experienced writers can tell with ease when someone comes along with a character that’s based entirely off the writer. It doesn’t take long at all for it to happen. Sometimes, it takes just an introduction post to figure it out. Now, exactly how is it so easy? It’s because these characters aren’t characters. They’re thoughts. They’re self-projection into a story. It’s what the writer would say, what they would do and think. The thing about this is, is that while each person is unique, characters based off writers are incredibly boring in personality, because they’re just like every other self-insert character out there. Characters are thoughtfully planned out. They have a downfall. They have hopes and fears and some part of their personality impacts the plot in some way. But a character based off the writer simply has a generic personality that wasn’t created for the plot. It was created solely for the writer to exist in a world where they could interact with the characters they wish they could meet in real life.

Now, there’s nothing wrong with this. I wish I could meet Dean Winchester, too. And if someone allowed me to, I’d make a banging hot dude with the name Amadeus and send him after Castiel and boom. Sex everywhere. But that’s not how it works. Because people who base their characters off themselves have one downfall: They take things too personally. They start to get upset when role plays drop. They take insults from one character to theirs too seriously. Why?

Because their characters are based off of them, so the character validates that the writer is valuable.

And it’s scary for some role players to see these characters, because red flags go up. They have to walk on eggshells or else the self-insertion writer starts taking things too personally and starts getting upset over every wrong done to their character. And other writers can’t help it: They immediately start to dislike this character because they want nothing to do with the drama of the writer’s attachment to it. It creates a vicious cycle. The writer seeks more people to role play with who are eager to accept others in, but then quickly realize that this is a self-insertion character. To avoid the drama, they stop role playing. The writer becomes desperate and wonders why no one wants to role play with them. They take it as a personal attack; because no one loves their character, then people must not love the writer, either.

So, what about the remedy?
Remember, your character does not validate your self-worth. Your character is a tool. You use your character. You abuse them and hurt them and then cradle them so they get back up and keep on fighting. Would you do that to yourself? No. If you do, then you’re a sick bastard and I need to give you my phone number so we can have some awesome kinky sex.

Take your character and look at ways that you can alter their personality. Take a look a Greek tragedies and copy some of the character development strategies there. Perhaps look at famous books and cartoons and TV shows. Look at the way the characters are developed. Choose one that’s unique and try to mimic that style. Not the personality so much, but the style. Dean Winchester, for example, forces his strength through an image that he projects, but he’s weak on the inside. His strength? His sense of humor and his careless attitude. His weakness? His brother. Your character could be the same way, but their strength may be their supposed heartlessness whereas their weakness may be that they are secretly mourning over the loss of their left nut after testicular cancer.

No. I’m not joking.

Once your character becomes less and less like you, you stop getting so attached, and there’s less drama. More people will role play with you. They will absolutely adore you and your character.

Also, don’t only do romance-based role plays. Romance isn’t the only thing in the world, and it’s not what validates your character. They are a badass in some way or another. Prove it.

If you play a canon character, your problem may be that you don’t play the character correctly.
People assume that someone who plays a canon is going to do it perfectly. That’s stupid. Everyone has a different interpretation of a character. But to completely take a character’s personality and turn it around is to kick yourself in the ass when it comes to role plays. Nothing is more obnoxious than seeing someone play Gandalf as a pimp. (Actually, that’d be fucking hilarious. If you do that, let me get you my number so we can have some awesome wizard sex.)

So, what about the remedy?
Do research on your character and try to better understand their speech habits. Understand their thought processes. Try to do some head canons. If you still can’t grasp their personality, then perhaps it’s best to add a disclaimer to your role play: Your character is now AU, because they have an entirely different personality. That way, people are more accepting of the fact that you play a canon character differently, and they’re not as surprised when they see that Gandalf’s a pimp and Dumbledore’s his prostitute.

If you play either a canon or an original character (or perhaps both), then your problem might be that you don’t understand role playing etiquette.
This isn’t to say that you’re an asshole. It just means that you’re doing something that isn’t polite, and you just don’t know that it’s not polite. Well, allow for this to be your notification. Let’s start by looking over three terms that everyone should know.

Godmodding – To make your character powerful and awesome and perfect in every way. It also means to have your character dodge attacks all the time (or even most of the time) and make them endure very little damage during battle.
Power playing – To take control of another person’s character, even in minor situations (i.e., “his character grabbed my character’s wrist”). To assume that one of your character’s attack hits another character’s.
Nagging – AKA pestering, bothering, poking, etc., etc. To ask for a response. To send several messages to try to get a role player’s attention.

If you do any of these, you’re not considering your fellow role player. I’ve had all of this done to me before, and it’s annoying and just plain rude. (Particularly the last.)

So, what about the remedy?
If you godmod, just stop it. Stop it now. Your character is not perfect, and they can be hit. The only reason you should be godmodding is if you’re playing an awesome Archangel, or even God. But you still have to give them some weaknesses here and there.

Power-playing should only be done during smut, and in very minor ways. (Mentioning another character’s moans, or – during violent sex – talking about a slap hitting, for example.) Don’t do it in any other circumstance.

Now, the nagging. This is a serious offense in the book of Amadeus. Keep in mind that there’s a difference between “nagging” and “informing.” To tell someone, “Hey, I replied” is not the same as, “Can you please post?” It makes you sound impatient and needy when you do that. Now, to be fair, some people need to be reminded. I know I do all the time. So the best way to go about doing it?

Send them a message of some sort. Make it polite and informative. Don’t ask for anything. Just let them know you posted, and give them a link. Something like this is always pleasant for me to read. “Hey, I saw you were online and posting. If you didn’t see that I’d replied, here’s the link. Just let me know if you need a break, though. I understand. c:” Add a smiley face, too, dammit. That always lets them know you ain’t even trippin’. If they don’t reply, then wait until the next day. Send them another message. “I don’t know if my message got eaten, but I’m gonna go ahead and send another reminder, just in case. I hope I’m not being annoying. Here’s the link to my response. Thanks. c:” Don’t. Forget. The. Smiley. It’s important. If they still don’t reply, wait another day. On the third day, send another message. “Hey, I sent two messages, and I just wanted to make extra sure that you got them. Here’s the link to my reply.” At this point, a smiley isn’t necessary. You can add one, but you don’t have to. (Yes, dammit, smileys are serious business.) If they don’t reply after that, then don’t bother them about a reply for that thread again. If you still want to role play with them, initiate another one or wait until they ask if anyone’s available to role play. Feel free to respond to open role plays.

NEVER. NEVER NEVER NEVER send more than one message a day to remind them about a post unless they explicitly ask you to. And never ask for a response. It’s rude.



I hope this helped. Seriously. I hate seeing people not having enough role playing in their lives. It’s supposed to be fun, and it can’t be when no one has any role play partners. If you think you have one of these problems, talk to a role playing buddy about how you can go about correcting it. Particularly the first one, because there are so many OCs out there that have so much potential but just aren’t quite there yet.

And, remember, Gandalf pimps? Let me get you my number.


No, I'm not trying to tell anyone anything. Just thought that this could be helpful to some ^-^

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PostPosted: Sun May 27, 2012 7:59 am 
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Wall of text. The reason why RPs die on this site is because no one posts in them... People sign up for RPs when they clearly have no time for such activity. When someone can't post instead of saying something like "Hey guys! Skip me for whatever reason..." they say nothing and after 3 weeks of nothing they're like "Oh? Why did this die?" I'm not without fault myself but seriously, writing that you can't post and to skip you isn't that hard...

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Lol, the wall of text is the point. Seriously, it's a very excellent and well written post as far as most things go well... anywhere on the internet. Very informative XD

Another of the reasons they die is also pretty much on there.

Because people also get to dependent on other RPers doing everything for them. It's not just this site, it's everywhere.

And then there is also those times where you're given nothing to work with because of reactional responses and such too.

Funny enough, for myself, I find a lot of the time the reason I stop posting is actually because of one of the things listed there toward the end. Nagging. Nagging, nagging and nagging. I love getting it told to me once, because I am forgetful. But when people are constant about it... especially when it hasn't even been that long...

My desire to post slowly goes from

100%
to 80%
and then from there it continuously declines.

and then from there on it is a downward spiral. Threads don't need to be posted in every single day to keep moving. They just need people who will actually keep coming up with plot and people who are willing to keep posting, even after a week has gone by.

I find that on site this, people are too willing to give up after a week has barely gone by. "OH, I GUESS IT'S DEAD, TIME TO MOVE ON."

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PostPosted: Sun May 27, 2012 8:15 am 
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I'm the type of guy who likes action. The more I have to wait for others to post, the less my desire to RP becomes... Same as yours because of nagging. Because of my "fast pased nature" I also burn out pretty quickly and after some time I just don't want to think about responses... Damn I'm bad at RPing...

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Lordzias wrote:
I'm the type of guy who likes action. The more I have to wait for others to post, the less my desire to RP becomes... Same as yours because of nagging. Because of my "fast pased nature" I also burn out pretty quickly and after some time I just don't want to think about responses... Damn I'm bad at RPing...

It's cool, I know how you feel. I prefer fast responses as well actually, but there are times where it just can't be helped unfortunately ):

And no you're not bad at all xD

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Well considering, Davina, if I remember correctly, you didn't even come to your own rp for a week+ because of IRL stuff... That'd be the primary reason RP's die around here. Mostly for bullshit reasons (not that your's was)

Noone want's to keep up with them, and then get angry when others want them to. It's not much to ask when people say "Hey, post." and you go -do- it. Seriously, this isn't professional literary genius roleplaying. Shit out your little paragraph and let the story continue. I've never been able to take someone seriously when they say they say they have IRL things going on and can't post. Why? Because then I see them post in Misc 20 seconds later about w/e the hell they seem to find important that they found on "i'maweabooandlikethisanime.net".

This may sound harsh. However, I've seen it a million times around here. If you have time to be on the internet and chill in Misc lurking, you have enough time to post a blurb on a storyline.

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I agree with Squall tbh.
I read most of the original post but not all of it, and though I somewhat agree with some of it, I don't really think these are the clearcut reasons people don't roleplay.

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What Squall wrote is kinda simillar to my qualms about RPing here in a sense that I think it would be better if the busy person let other Rpers know that he/she can't post...

... I want my pokemanz back...

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Well considering, Davina, if I remember correctly, you didn't even come to your own rp for a week+ because of IRL stuff... That'd be the primary reason RP's die around here. Mostly for bullshit reasons (not that your's was)

Noone want's to keep up with them, and then get angry when others want them to. It's not much to ask when people say "Hey, post." and you go -do- it. Seriously, this isn't professional literary genius roleplaying. Shit out your little paragraph and let the story continue. I've never been able to take someone seriously when they say they say they have IRL things going on and can't post. Why? Because then I see them post in Misc 20 seconds later about w/e the hell they seem to find important that they found on "i'maweabooandlikethisanime.net".

This may sound harsh. However, I've seen it a million times around here. If you have time to be on the internet and chill in Misc lurking, you have enough time to post a blurb on a storyline.

No, it's not harsh at all.

And I honestly apologize for not posting too often in my own RP. I really do, I know how you feel on that one. Some pretty bad situations came up around the same time I had actually started that one though, and I kind of had lost a lot of my drive to RP. I just didn't even want to do it anymore and I had no creative ability or drive. It's why I haven't started or joined any other new RPs on this site.
I'm a lot better now though but I'm still not sure I'll be RPing here any time soon.

Not sure I agree on the misc part though, lol. It literally takes me 5 seconds to post on this forum from my phone, but a half decent paragraph is a lot harder. I'm not satisfied if I can't shit something out that feels half decent to me either. I like giving things to work with MOST of the time, unless I can't... and I also have problems if I can't seem to get a feel for getting in to character cause the words don't come. It's a lot easier to post as my plain old self randomly in misc or wherever xDD

This post wasn't really directed at the RPers on this site though. It was more just RPers in general, and I felt like it needed to be placed here. Like I said, I didn't really mean to direct this at anybody or start drama. I just feel like that it should be read and understood.


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I agree with Squall tbh.
I read most of the original post but not all of it, and though I somewhat agree with some of it, I don't really think these are the clearcut reasons people don't roleplay.

Well the thing is, these don't all apply to this site. It's just a general statement of "maybe this is why you are having issues".

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No drama here lmao.

I just think its an effort thing. If you really wanted to rp, you would make a post when you need to.

If you didnt have enough time, or you werent as interested as you thought you were, Gtfo. You shouldnt have joined in the first place.

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