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Sol Badguy 40%  40%  [ 10 ]
Ragna The Bloodedge 12%  12%  [ 3 ]
FFFFFFUUUUU____(MIND BLOWN FOR SEEING SUCH A WONDERFULL BATTLE) 48%  48%  [ 12 ]
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 24, 2011 2:47 am 
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Its Not the Character you Like the Most, But Who would win a Theorical Encounter between Both


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They both are Limiting their Own Power at Will.

Sol

Sol Is Gear Prototype. But to prevent losing his Humanity, he Created the Bandage he Uses a A Form of Limiter, that way He can keep his Human Form and Sanity

Ragna

According to Rachel, Ragna´s True Power is not the Azure Grimiore, though, According to Rachel, he Limits his Power and Strenght on His OWN will.

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Sol Is Gear Protorype, If he Becomes A Full gear he is Menace to the World

Ragna Is the Body of the Black Beast, As With sol, if he Becomes the Full Beast, The World is in Danger.


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PostPosted: Thu Mar 24, 2011 2:55 am 
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Sol Badguy. From what I've played of Guilty Gear he is a lot stronger.

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Once again, all of that information about Sol is horribly wrong.

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Once again, all of that information about Sol is horribly wrong.

then please correct the man

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 24, 2011 3:11 am 
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Shadow Draygon wrote:
Once again, all of that information about Sol is horribly wrong.


Why Dont You Elaborate Then? :|

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lol Sol would decimate Ragna with a single Bandit Bringer.

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 24, 2011 5:52 am 
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ktulu5453 wrote:
then please correct the man

reymon698 wrote:
Why Dont You Elaborate Then? :|



Copypasta from Blade:

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CASE 1: Ragna=the=BloodEdge:

Prior to Continuum Shift it is said that Ragna is in a perpetual state of "self-refinement" this is similar to what Litchi is doing and what Arakune failed to do. That is to say "the grimoire is not a part of me, I am simply using it" is the philosophy behind how the grimoire actually works.

Ragna's "arm" is a direct mechanism link into the boundary, however without that link it becomes similar in structure to an incapacitated Nox Nyctores, a weapon that runs on Seithr. It becomes hard and dead if there is no link to Seithr, also Ragna becomes blind in his red eye as a result of the link (keep in mind the brain hemisphere that controls the right side of the body is the left hemisphere, yet strangely his right eye is also affected by the grimoire, this may be a misnomer).

So long as his arm is linked to Seithr and therefore the boundary, the mechanism is identical to a cauldron's refinement process, in effect the "refinement" in this case is to maintain Ragna's human form. It is not so much that he is holding anything back, so much as he is "holding himself together".

When he activates the Ars Armagus "BlazBlue" aka "Blood Kain" by releasing the 666 Restriction, he is reconfiguring his cells to intake life-force and regnerate at an even larger rate than what his body can do naturally with his arm in its semi-dormant state. On a cellular level this is similar to an enhanced form of Cancer...his body is rapidly deteriorating, in order to compensate for the spacial distortion being generated from his arm via the "imaginary number" code. This "distortion" breaks down physical and magical matter and "refines" it to regenerate his body's constant break-down on a cellular level. By doing this he enhances his destructive power, but at the cost of his own physical state. Part of the reason he CAN do this is because of being bitten and obtaining Vampire blood/cells from Rachel Alucard. The process called "Blood Kain" is similar to an accellerated refinement of his body, acting as the Cauldron itself.

"Black Beast" is a euphamism for a malfunctioning cauldron, as it did not have a stable Murakumo unit to forge...so in other words, Ragna is using his body as a proxy Murakumo Unit, and so long as his body does not break down utterly, the "cauldron" will never "finish forging the sword". But unlike the actual Black Beast, which had an Unstable (and insane) mind-center (namely Nu-13)...Ragna's mind is the lynchpin that keeps him stable enough to "control" the refinement process, ergo the "powers" of the Black Beast are controlled by him.

Should his body break down, the refinement process could either produce a melt-down and self-destruct in on itself...or the process would produce a completely mindless "black beast" as what happened in CS2 storyline.

However...since CS2, he has inducted into his body something called the "Idea Engine" intended to emulate or possibly be superior to a Nox Nyctores class weapon. This engine is capable of reversing the flow of Seithr in Ragna's arm...as well as in other living entities, in other words it can "give life" and not just "take life". What else this does to his powers remains unknown, but now part of his cell structure is even MORE like a Murakumo Unit's...so he is half murakumo half cauldron and part vampire...so who knows what he is now.


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CASE 2: Professor Frederick aka Flame of Corruption aka Sol Badguy:

Sol's body was converted in structure to that of a Gear...reconfigured if you will...what parts of his body remain human are unknown as theoretically he retains his intellect, unlike other Gears...but the process known as "Dragon Install" is a technique that restructures his Gear cells to more evolve into the DNA of the creature that was "grafted" into his body (namely a Dragon). His powers are naturally enhanced by Magic that he draws from the Backyard, but even further enhanced by the Firesealed Sword (Fuuenken) that he wields.

However, because of the nature of evolution, things that are strong and face opposition tend to get stronger, and therefore the cellular structure Sol was given is "exceeding the limits" of his Gear Cell containment device, causing it to erode. This does not mean he is losing his humanity...it is simply that he is no longer classified as human in broad terms (or truly human in the first place). It is mankind's sentimentality that causes us to cling to that which defines us, what's more it is what draws us to use what we define as "effective means" to achieve a goal...in other words what's a gamer without opposable thumbs? What's a warrior without hands to grip and swing a sword? If Sol loses that "sense of humanity" that he maintains within the containment he himself created, he can no longer achieve his revenge on That Man...or...if he can strike a balance between what remains human and the dragon within himself...he can exceed both species (and thus fulfill That Man's expectations that he "become a warrior")...it is this level of evolution that allows him to adapt quickly to the Soul Sinker magic, as well as to become adaptive to the dense pressure of the Backyard.

Sol's body (semi-human or otherwise) is constantly evolving and adapting, therefore it is unknown what kind of lifespan he will have (currently exceeding 170 years of age).

That Man asks the question "who will take on the role of the Devil first, he (referring to Sol) or I?"


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Final Argument: Sol Badguy VERSUS Ragna=the=BloodEdge

A being that constantly adapts drawing power from the backyard versus a being that is using soul energy from the boundary in order to maintain semblance of physical form without breaking down utterly.

There are several questions to be asked:

1. How strong is the Backyard?
2. How strong is the Boundary?
3. Can cellular breakdown infect a lifeforce that constantly evolves and adapts and regenerates (i.e. the Soul Eater effect)?
4. Inversely, can evolving Gear cells be "overinjected with life" (i.e. the Idea Engine effect) and be overloaded to the point of rupture?
5. How long could such a battle last before Ragna's body ultimately breaks down due to over-use of the grimoire (or could he actually last longer than expected)?
6. How long could such a battle last before Sol is no longer cognitive and such a battle becomes meaningless and the equivalent of a man fighting a monster?

I'll leave answering these questions to "true fans".

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 24, 2011 8:38 am 
KK3 wrote:
*picks third option*


^ this

I was waiting for a new poll :D


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*reads SD's description*

So... CS2 really DID continue further CS' storyline, because Ragna is using Idea Engine there? How did Blade get all those conclusion when CS2 PSP isn't even out in Japan?

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