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PostPosted: Wed Nov 10, 2010 10:56 pm 
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OK once i beat a emerald tager buster, with it and now when ever tager does a 720 and i try to pull off a dbd he/she always wins. is this supposed to happen? or am i just being stupid...

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OK once i beat a emerald tager buster, with it and now when ever tager does a 720 and i try to pull off a dbd he/she always wins. is this supposed to happen? or am i just being stupid...

If you beat GETB with Devoured by Darkness, then this probably happened:

He let go of C during your super flash, thus ending his active frames.

GETB stays active for like 2 seconds if you hold down C. Devoured by Darkness has invincibility on startup, but then you're vulnerable for a split second before active frames. During that vulnerability, GETB will grab you.

So just consider yourself lucky that ONE time that it worked.

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I tested it out in training, even when I activated GETB before the claw while still holding C, it still didn't beat Devoured by Darkness.

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 11, 2010 12:21 am 
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Judge Balthier wrote:
I tested it out in training, even when I activated GETB before the claw while still holding C, it still didn't beat Devoured by Darkness.

wut?

I better go test this, too...

Edit: No, I'm right. See my previous post. GETB always wins as a Throw Counter. It doesn't matter when you buffer it, either. See video proof:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QuCyObsULyk

Also, if you let go of C during GETB, DBD will win, just like I said:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TUL7Pw3Ppbw

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Yeah, I retried it. >_> I think Devoured beats GETB only when you activate Devoured RIGHT after Blood Kain, but I think GETB would have to be activated before BK. Idk, it seems too risky.

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Judge Balthier wrote:
Yeah, I retried it. >_> I think Devoured beats GETB only when you activate Devoured RIGHT after Blood Kain.

I editted my previous post with another vid.

And like I said, DBD will NEVER beat GETB (Unless you let go of C). DBD has frames inbetween startup and active frames that leave you open to attack. GETB stays active continuously for about 2 seconds.

Edit: Just did more testing to see if maybe DBD had more range than GETB, and that's how it happened. This is not the case. GETB has more range than DBD.

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darkhero562 wrote:
OK once i beat a emerald tager buster, with it and now when ever tager does a 720 and i try to pull off a dbd he/she always wins. is this supposed to happen? or am i just being stupid...

One question, did it go like this: GETB activated -> BK -> DbD?

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so basicly i fluked it...

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darkhero562 wrote:
so basicly i fluked it...

Kinda.

He had to have let go of C. When he let go, you countered him.

Here's a video showing GETB winning in all possiblilites:

1 - GETB -> BK -> DBD
2 - BK -> GETB -> DBD
3 - BK -> DBD -> GETB

And just to show how open you are after DBD:

4 - BK -> DBD -> 5AA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=utpFnHT6SuE

The best time to BK -> DBD is countering an attacking opponent. If your opponent is in the middle of a long attack animation (Like ID), then you can use BK invincibility to avoid the attack and DBD to counter. If your opponent isn't doing anything, they can just wait for BK startup to finish, then jab or grab you out of DBD.

And Spirfail, you must be high if you think Ragna can beat out GETB!!!

GETB > ALL!!!

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darkhero562 wrote:
so basicly i fluked it...

Kinda.

He had to have let go of C. When he let go, you countered him.

Here's a video showing GETB winning in all possiblilites:

1 - GETB -> BK -> DBD
2 - BK -> GETB -> DBD
3 - BK -> DBD -> GETB

And just to show how open you are after DBD:

4 - BK -> DBD -> 5AA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=utpFnHT6SuE

The best time to BK -> DBD is countering an attacking opponent. If your opponent is in the middle of a long attack animation (Like ID), then you can use BK invincibility to avoid the attack and DBD to counter. If your opponent isn't doing anything, they can just wait for BK startup to finish, then jab or grab you out of DBD.

And Spirfail, you must be high if you think Ragna can beat out GETB!!!

GETB > ALL!!!



If you suspect Getb,
Inferno Divider or JIAD and cross them up.

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