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PostPosted: Mon Feb 28, 2011 7:33 am 
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so um yea dont know if this is the right spot BUT please bare with me eheh getting the hang of this place still, so what is the best was to slay the beast known as Iron Tager on raggy? sowwies if it's been posted before i didn't really try too hard to find it =(

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 Post subject: Re: noobie here ^-^
PostPosted: Mon Feb 28, 2011 5:23 pm 
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Basically,

Play footises, aka Poking

Do not go in deep, if you go in deep he will punish.

Do not back dash if he has sparkbolt

Do not Gauntlet hades or Hell's fang without 100% sure it is in a combo.

Learn how far his magnetism pulls in so you can use it agianst him.

Do not reversal predictablity

Make sure you use the "Tager specific combo's" when fighting him to max your damage output.

Be weary of Attomic Collider you can Divid it but if that is suspect you can be baited into it and be block into 720'd

There is alot that could be the issue, but I can't say without you telling us more or having a video.

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General Basics of How to Deal with Tager.

Tager damage is (cs1) currently average, combine that with the longer combos that can be done on him for quite a bit more damage his 13,000 health will mean little to you. Tager is Slow, and rather immobile and lacks general approach game. Make sure you learn your Tager Specific combos.

General mistakes player make Fighting:

1: JIAD (Jump Instant Air Dash)
The Number one mistake most players make is JIAD in too far. There is no reason to JIAD into Tager's face the further you come the better 360 B becomes which is quite a bit more damage than 360 A. Note: Even if you try to cross Tager up and tag him from behind a well timed (during backdash) 720/360 will swap directions with the cross-up and tag the person on the backside with no alteration to input command due to the cross-up timing.


2: Magnetism
Magnetism is something you need to know how to deal with. On the Ground in the Air and elsewhere. If you Jump you need to know exactly how far 5D 4D AC 2D 6A J5D will pull you in. If you do not Tager will make this hurt and hurt alot. Once you get that down you can Punish these rather slow moves/long recovery moves. Make sure you also know this on the ground and on wake-up (foward nuetral and backwards).

3: Spark Gauge
Spark bolt is the deterent to backdashing (cept in the mirror). NEVER BACKDASH, or JIAD with Tager being open to Sparkbolt. Watch that Gauge, you need to know when he will have Sparkbolt and when he doesn't.

4: Predictable pressure or Long recovery pressure
If Tager has Heat you need to remember anything done predictable or that has long recovery, can result into 720. Ragna's 5D for example doesn't even need to IB'ed to 720 between the two hits and confirm the grab.
Cross-ups are good measure to to get away from 720, but in general If a Tager suspects this he can get 2C FATAL counter which may turn out worse than eating the 720. You need to play very safely when he has Heat, and You need to know if you are magnetised or not. The reason being normally where you may be safe at (with a backdash) to easily keep you out of range may not be safe if magnetised. Lambda and Arakune's Backdash suffer from this as magnet pulls them in faster than they pull back.

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zomg this will actually help me so much!! and there wasn't anything specific it's just every time i fought a tager i'd get destroyed 70% of the time. by his grabs and sch but now i know what i'm doing wrong and shall work on improving in those areas against him. thankies ^-^ *hugs*

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Awwwww.... MIT got a hug....! I'm not sure his circuits know how to compute that. He hasnt been touched or shown love in so long. I think you just made the lonely little boy behind the controls weep.

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Awwwww.... MIT got a hug....! I'm not sure his circuits know how to compute that. He hasnt been touched or shown love in so long. I think you just made the lonely little boy behind the controls weep.

He is going to explode.
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Mecha knows his shit, trust me. When I fought him a long time ago. He'd instant block>720

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Mecha knows his shit, trust me. When I fought him a long time ago. He'd instant block>720

His theory (nevery played him, sadly QQ) is second only to Shishou The Tager D:<

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No problem is you run into more issue (esp with the Tager match-up) I can explain more so to help with the problem. Jsut give me more details if you run into an issue.

I currently tied up, with other issues, and haven't been able to play online.

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zomg this will actually help me so much!! and there wasn't anything specific it's just every time i fought a tager i'd get destroyed 70% of the time. by his grabs and sch but now i know what i'm doing wrong and shall work on improving in those areas against him. thankies ^-^ *hugs*


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